Joy Division

18th December 1979: Les Bains Douches, Paris  Two different tapes of this concert exist  Two different tapes of this concert exist


Photo (C) François Guillez and reproduced here with permission

There appear to be two different recordings of this concert:

  • a complete audience recording
  • a soundboard (or professionally recorded) radio station recording


Songs performed:
01. Passover
02. Wilderness
03. Disorder
04. Love Will Tear Us Apart
05. Insight
06. Shadowplay
07. Transmission
08. Day Of The Lords
09. Twenty Four Hours
10. Colony
11. These Days
12. A Means To An End
13. She's Lost Control
14. Atrocity Exhibition
15. Interzone
16. Warsaw - brief internal cut (audience recording only)


Audience recording:
Features all the above tracks
Appx. duration: 65 mins. Sound quality: 8-/9


Radio station Recording:
The Bernard Lenoir programme on France Inter radio has broadcast parts of this recording a number of times over the years. According to Mark Johnson’s “An Ideal For Living” book the full recording was broadcast in 1982 on the night New Order played Le Palace in Paris. In any event, the fact that Inter Radio has a high quality version of this recording is good news..

As at 2010 we believe Bernard Lenoir played the following tracks on the dates below:

Poster courtesy ticketsconcertsrnrm blogspot


Ticket courtesy Patrick Berthier

1 Passover    

1982

 

2001

2010

 
2 Wilderness    

1982

   

2010

 
3 Disorder    

1982

1994

     
4 Love Will Tear Us Apart    

1982

1994

 

2010

 
5 Insight

1979

 

1982

1994

 

2010

 
6 Shadowplay

1979

 

1982

1994

 

2010

 
7 Transmission

1979

 

1982

1994

 

2010

 
8 Day Of The Lords

1979

 

1982

1994

     
9 Twenty Four Hours

1979

 

1982

1994

 

2010

 
10 Colony    

1982

   

2010

 
11 These Days    

1982

1994

 

2010

 
12 A Means To An End    

1982

1994

 

2010

 
13 She's Lost Control    

1982

   

2010

 
14 Atrocity Exhibition  

1980s*

1982

   

2010

*possibly a 1980s rebroadcast

15 Interzone    

1982

     

 

16 Warsaw  

1980s*

1982

     

*possibly a 1980s rebroadcast


1979 – original broadcast.
T
he Lenoir programme was called "Feedback" at this time.
Apparantly this five song broadcast was on the night of the concert – 18th December 1979.
Features commentary between tracks in French which roughly translates as:

[Shadowplay] ... “Joy Division live from Les Bains Douches with an old ghost of Jim Morrison who drags himself around there”.
[Transmission] ... “Transmission by Joy Division the title of ther last single dance to the radio and if one day you start dancing like the singer of Joy Division be careful not to be taken away by the two nurses from the psychiatric hospital”.
[Day Of The Lords] ... “Joy Division Live From Bains Douches”
[24 Hours] ... “Joy Division”

Appx. duration: 20 mins. Sound quality: 8-/9


1982 - rebroadcast
According to Mark Johnson's "An Ideal For Living" book the full recording was broadcast on the same night New Order played a gig at the Le Palace in Paris, France, the date was 17th April 1982. It's been suggested that the reason no tape recording of this has been circulated, is because all the Joy Division fans were at the New Order gig rather than sitting at home listening to their radios. No tape exists - unless the two "1980s- possible rebroadcast" tracks are from this?

1980s - * possible rebroadcast:
In 2004, a different recording of some of the final tracks of the performance (Atrocity Exhibition and Warsaw) was discovered on an old cassette from the mid-1980s. Both songs appear to be either from an uncirculated, possibly longer/complete soundboard recording or as we've assumed above a different, unknown FM broadcast probably in the 1980s. There is no internal cut in Warsaw.
Appx. duration: 9 mins. Sound quality: 8+/9

1994 - rebroadcast:
Broadcast on Les Inrockuptibles", Radio France Inter 20th December, this was a sort of surprise Christmas present to listeners around the 15th anniversary of the concert. Lenoir and his producer Michelle Soullier cued the tape after the first batch of songs, and said something along the lines of 'let's listen to more of this show' and so they skipped 'Colony' - however we do know it exists on their tape. Lenoir had stated that the tape used for this rebroadcast was a backup / working copy as the original master tape was nowhere to be found.
Some tracks are slightly incomplete, and that the sound is taken from an analog broadcasted recording, not from the master/back up copy of France Inter
Appx. duration: 35 mins. Sound quality: 9/9 (update: a better DAT recording of this surfaced in late 2009)

2001 - rebroadcast:
'Passover' was broadcast for first time during a Joy Division / New Order special on 7th November - a few days before the New Order gigs at L'Olympia Paris
Appx. duration: 4 minutes.. Sound quality: 9/9 (update: a better DAT recording of this surfaced in late 2009)

2010 - May 18th - rebroadcast:
Included 'Wilderness', Colony', She's Lost Control' and 'Atrocity Exhibition'. 'Disorder' and 'Day Of The Lords' were omitted, and the two encore tracks were not broadcast.
Appx. duration: 50* minutes. Sound quality: 9/9 (*During the remaining 10 minutes of the 1 hour show presenter Bernard Lenoir is talking and the regular studio versions of 'Isolation' and 'Dead Souls' are played)


The 1994 broadcast is available on the officially released:
Les Bains Douches 18 December 1979 CD, NMC, 2001
Fractured Box Set
ReFractured Box Set



          
Les Bains Douches photographed in 2002                                             Photo (C) François Guillez and reproduced here with permission 
(C)
Joy Division - The Eternal (Michel Enkiri)


All 16 songs appeared on the following bootlegs:

Performances01 2LP+7"EP
Features the 9 radio tracks of 1994 + the audience recording taken from "Paris" the TMOQ release of 1989.

Joy Division Live Bains Douches Paris 1979 CD

The full audience recording (all 16 songs) as well as the 1st FM
broadcast (5 songs) appeared on the following bootleg:

Live In Paris 2LP

The full audience recording (all 16 songs) as well as just 3 songs from the
1st FM broadcast appeared on the following bootleg:

Paris 2LP (TMOQ)

This is a poorer sounding re-press of Live In Paris above

Paris - Live Transmission


10 songs from this gig appeared on the following bootleg:

Le Terme *Part III* LP


9 songs from this gig appeared on the following bootlegs, these are the same nine tracks from
the concert that were officially released on Les Bains Douches CD:

Atrocity Exhibition, Live in France 79 LP

Les Bains Douches, Paris 18 December 1979 Cassette


5 songs appeared on the following bootlegs:

1979 LP
We Were Strangers LP

The 20 minute FM broadcast appeared on these bootlegs:

Atrocity Exhibition LP

Heartbeat/Here Are The Young Men CD  


Passover (2001 FM broadfcast) appeared on the Passover bootleg 7"

Day of the Lords appears on Another Ideal For Killing LP

Day of The Lords appeared on: Alternate Unknown Pleasures LP

 

Joy Division stayed in this hotel in Paris (C) Copyright Joy Division - The Eternal web site (Michel Enkiri) and reproduced here with permission 

Interestingly French magazine Actuel (N°1, November 1979) advertised this gig for 20th November which they mistakenly documented as a Thursday when it was a Tuesday. Thanks to
Dimitri Ramage for this discovery and the scan