18th December 1979: Les Bains Douches, Paris
Photo
(C) François
Guillez and reproduced here with permission
There appear to be two different recordings of
this concert:
- a complete audience recording
- a soundboard (or professionally recorded)
radio station recording
Songs performed:
01. Passover
02. Wilderness
03. Disorder
04. Love Will Tear Us Apart
05. Insight
06. Shadowplay
07. Transmission
08. Day Of The Lords
09. Twenty Four Hours
10. Colony
11. These Days
12. A Means To An End
13. She's Lost Control
14. Atrocity Exhibition
15. Interzone
16. Warsaw - brief internal cut (audience
recording only)
Audience recording:
Features all the above tracks
Appx. duration: 65 mins. Sound quality: 8-/9
Radio station Recording:
The Bernard Lenoir programme on France Inter
radio has broadcast parts of this recording a
number of times over the years. According to
Mark Johnson’s “An Ideal For Living” book the
full recording was broadcast in 1982 on the
night New Order played Le Palace in Paris. In
any event, the fact that Inter Radio has a high
quality version of this recording is good news..
As at 2010 we believe Bernard Lenoir played the
following tracks on the dates below:
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Poster courtesy ticketsconcertsrnrm
blogspot
Ticket courtesy Patrick Berthier
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1 |
Passover |
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1982
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2001
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2010
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2 |
Wilderness |
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1982
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2010
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3 |
Disorder |
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1982
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1994
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4 |
Love Will Tear Us Apart |
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1982
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1994
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2010
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5 |
Insight |
1979
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1982
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1994
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2010
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6 |
Shadowplay |
1979
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1982
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1994
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2010
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Transmission |
1979
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1982
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1994
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2010
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8 |
Day Of The Lords |
1979
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1982
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1994
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9 |
Twenty Four Hours |
1979
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1982
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1994
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2010
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10 |
Colony |
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1982
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2010
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11 |
These Days |
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1982
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1994
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2010
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12 |
A Means To An End |
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1982
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1994
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2010
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13 |
She's Lost Control |
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1982
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2010
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14 |
Atrocity Exhibition |
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1980s*
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1982
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2010
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*possibly
a 1980s rebroadcast
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15 |
Interzone |
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1982
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16 |
Warsaw |
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1980s*
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1982
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*possibly
a 1980s rebroadcast
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1979 – original broadcast.
The Lenoir programme was called "Feedback" at this
time.
Apparantly this five song broadcast was on the night of
the concert – 18th December 1979.
Features commentary between tracks in French which roughly
translates as:
[Shadowplay] ... “Joy Division live from Les Bains Douches
with an old ghost of Jim Morrison who drags himself around
there”.
[Transmission] ... “Transmission by Joy Division the title
of ther last single dance to the radio and if one day you
start dancing like the singer of Joy Division be careful
not to be taken away by the two nurses from the
psychiatric hospital”.
[Day Of The Lords] ... “Joy Division Live From Bains
Douches”
[24 Hours] ... “Joy Division”
Appx. duration: 20 mins. Sound quality: 8-/9
1982 - rebroadcast
According to Mark Johnson's "An Ideal For Living" book the
full recording was broadcast on the same night New Order
played a gig at the Le Palace in Paris, France, the date
was 17th April 1982. It's been suggested that the reason
no tape recording of this has been circulated, is because
all the Joy Division fans were at the New Order gig rather
than sitting at home listening to their radios. No tape
exists - unless the two "1980s- possible rebroadcast"
tracks are from this?
1980s - * possible
rebroadcast:
In 2004, a different recording of some of the final tracks
of the performance (Atrocity Exhibition and Warsaw) was
discovered on an old cassette from the mid-1980s. Both
songs appear to be either from an uncirculated, possibly
longer/complete soundboard recording or as we've assumed
above a different, unknown FM broadcast probably in the
1980s. There is no internal cut in Warsaw.
Appx. duration: 9 mins. Sound quality: 8+/9
1994 - rebroadcast:
Broadcast on Les Inrockuptibles", Radio France Inter 20th
December, this was a sort of surprise Christmas present to
listeners around the 15th anniversary of the concert.
Lenoir and his producer Michelle Soullier cued the tape
after the first batch of songs, and said something along
the lines of 'let's listen to more of this show' and so
they skipped 'Colony' - however we do know it exists on
their tape. Lenoir had stated that the tape used for this
rebroadcast was a backup / working copy as the original
master tape was nowhere to be found.
Some tracks are slightly incomplete, and that the sound is
taken from an analog broadcasted recording, not from the
master/back up copy of France Inter
Appx. duration: 35 mins. Sound quality: 9/9 (update: a
better DAT recording of this surfaced in late 2009)
2001 - rebroadcast:
'Passover' was broadcast for first time during a Joy
Division / New Order special on 7th November - a few days
before the New Order gigs at L'Olympia Paris
Appx. duration: 4 minutes.. Sound quality: 9/9 (update: a
better DAT recording of this surfaced in late 2009)
2010 - May 18th - rebroadcast:
Included 'Wilderness', Colony', She's Lost Control' and
'Atrocity Exhibition'. 'Disorder' and 'Day Of The Lords'
were omitted, and the two encore tracks were not
broadcast.
Appx. duration: 50* minutes. Sound quality: 9/9 (*During
the remaining 10 minutes of the 1 hour show presenter
Bernard Lenoir is talking and the regular studio versions
of 'Isolation' and 'Dead Souls' are played)
The 1994 broadcast is available on the officially
released:
Les Bains Douches 18 December 1979
CD, NMC, 2001
Fractured Box Set
ReFractured Box Set
Les Bains Douches
photographed in
2002
Photo
(C) François
Guillez
and reproduced here with
permission
(C) Joy Division - The Eternal (Michel Enkiri)
All 16 songs appeared on the following bootlegs:
Performances01 2LP+7"EP
Features the 9 radio tracks of 1994 + the audience
recording taken from "Paris" the TMOQ release of 1989.
Joy
Division Live Bains Douches Paris 1979 CD
The full audience recording (all 16 songs) as well as the
1st FM
broadcast (5 songs) appeared on the following
bootleg:
Live In Paris 2LP
The full audience recording (all 16 songs) as well
as just 3 songs from the
1st FM broadcast appeared on the following bootleg:
Paris 2LP (TMOQ)
This is a poorer sounding re-press of Live In Paris above
Paris
- Live Transmission
10 songs from this gig appeared on the following bootleg:
Le Terme *Part III* LP
9 songs from this gig appeared on the following bootlegs,
these are the same nine tracks from
the concert that were officially released on Les Bains Douches CD:
Atrocity Exhibition, Live in France 79 LP
Les Bains Douches, Paris 18 December 1979
Cassette
5 songs appeared on the following bootlegs:
1979
LP
We Were
Strangers LP
The 20 minute FM broadcast appeared on these bootlegs:
Atrocity Exhibition LP
Heartbeat/Here Are The Young Men CD
Passover (2001 FM broadfcast) appeared on the Passover
bootleg 7"
Day of the Lords appears on Another
Ideal For Killing LP
Day of The Lords appeared on: Alternate Unknown Pleasures LP